Well over 350 people packed a meeting organised by the Royal Statistical Society's Official Statistics Section and National Statistics Working Party, on 22 February 2010 to hear MPs from the three main UK political parties
set out their policies relating to official statistics.
In his opening remarks Society
President, David Hand, spoke of the regrettable lack of trust in official
statistics. “The lack of trust does notreflect the quality of the figures being produced,” he said. “Instead,
it represents a combination of a number of things, including a lack of
understanding of the complexities of official statistics; mistrust arising from
the misuse of statistics, either deliberate or accidental; and a perceived
difference between the ground truth as the public see things, and the overall
published statistical summaries.”
He
added that, “statistics are the mirror through which we view society.The public need to have confidence that that
mirror is not cracked. This is critically important as we approach a general
election.For the public to trust
politicians, they must first trust the basis on which the politicians are
making their assertions.Last week I
wrote to party leaders stressing this need for the use of statistics to be
appropriate and accurate.”
First to speak was Labour MP and former minister, James
Plaskitt. He said that there was a need to rebuild trust in the entire
political system of which statistics was a particular part. He wanted an
official statistical system that was comprehensive and robust, that was
independent and that provided the public with a clear kitemark on statistical
quality.
His view was that the 2007 Statistics and Registration
Service Act had been a significant change, but that although necessary it was not
sufficient. He described the roughly 1,300 National Statistics series produced
in many different government departments as a statistical diaspora. There was a
tension within the UK Statistics Authority between its scrutineer role and its
publisher role, something he likened to being both scorer and umpire.
In particular he wanted to see all official statistics come under
the Code of Practice, though he said he was relaxed about whether publication
was independent. On pre-release access, he felt that the problem was a public
perception that it allowed a political massaging. But his view was that
ministers should have the chance to understand newly published statistics before
being asked to comment on them, saying that what matters to the public is
statistical veracity. He did feel that extending pre-release to chairs of
parliamentary select committees would balance the extent of this access.
On the Census he felt that there was a strong case for it in
delivering the fine-grained information needed for efficient spending of public
money. He suggested that a post-Census report should be published, perhaps by
the UK Statistics Authority, setting out how the data wereused and results applied, and what
efficiencies were gained through it. This he felt, would help give the public
confidence in its usefulness and would help determine what should happen in
2021.
Another former minister, Francis Maude MP, spoke for the
Conservative Party. He opened his remarks saying that while the quality of
statistics was desirable, he had doubts about the quantity, wondering whether
too many statistics were collected.
Speaking of the UK Statistics Authority he said that he had
great support for the way it was working. He noted that while an independent
Authority was not necessarily comfortable for politicians it did impose
discipline. He felt that it would be worth looking at giving it a greater
remit.
He underlined the importance of transparency as a necessary
discipline in politics and spoke of Conservative plans to set up an independent
organisation to examine fiscal policy and to invigilate official projections of
government budget and debt.
His view was that politicians should exercise control over
the information that is collected and gave a view from his experience in
government in the 1980s that the collection of business statistics at that time,
for example, had been burdensome. He took a somewhat similar with the Census,
and said he was concerned about its cost, and said that it should be asked just
how valuable some questions are. He was concerned that response rates might
diminish as the Census questionnaire grew bigger, felt that some of the
questions were too intrusive and suggested that the reliability of the statistics
produced could well be affected. Overall he felt there was a strong case for
next year’s Census to be cut back.
He welcomed, however, the “Beyond 2011” project looking at
other ways in which the information currently collected in the Census could be
compiled which he thought could lead to more timely and cost-effective data.
Vince Cable MP spoke for the Liberal Democrats. He noted
that he had been heavily involved in the passage of the Statistics and
Registration Service Act, leading his party’s response in the House of Commons.
He set out some views that statistics could be a
particularly sensitive issue when subjectivity was depended on in considering
various measures. As examples he gave different counts related to unemployment,
and the debate on switching from RPI to CPI as the main measure of inflation.
He suggested that this might lead to “conspiracy theories” among the public.
He recognised that while politicians might misuse
statistics, others could too where they might have strong motivations to do so.
This and many other reasons meant there was a need for a system of
unimpeachable integrity.
In considering the impact of the legislation he said that it
had been an advance. Before its passage he said he had three particular
concerns. On pre-release access he noted that it had been seriously out of line
with international practice but said that there had been improvement since the
legislation. He said there remained the distinction between official statistics
generally and those which were National Statistics. His third concern had been
about parliamentary accountability of the new Authority, which he felt had been
addressed.
He noted that a particular question he had been asked to
address by the meeting’s organiser and that was whether he supported
ring-fencing the statistics budget which he explained he did not. He did not
feel it was appropriate to ring-fence any area of government spending in
considering the changes that would have to be made to public spending.
As Francis Maude had to leave the meeting early due to
other business, he was not available to respond to questions as part of the
panel. He has agreed to respond to those put to the other panellists in
correspondence. The responses to all will be reported once that has happened.